Follow Up on DS/newspaper deal
by Joey Manley
This is a follow-up to the recently-announced deal which will bring Diesel Sweeties to the newspapers, via United Feature Syndicate. Thoughts have come up which are too interesting, and too important, to allow to stay hidden in the comments section of this post, where I waxed enthusiastic about rstevens being able to keep his copyright.
In that thread, Eric Millikin points out that:
But I don’t think that not “expect[ing] him to sign over the ownership of the property, and the merchandise business … represents a sea change for United, and possibly for newspaper syndicates generally.†Diesel Sweeties will be just the latest of many syndicated comics that retain their own copyright and merchandising. There are plenty of newspaper comics that are simply distributed by a syndicate while the copyright is held by someone else.
Elsewhere, Scott Kurtz asks some good questions today on the PvP homepage; specifically:
What does “maintain my own copyright” mean? That can mean that an artist maintains total creative and legal control over his property, or it can mean nothing. I know more than one syndicated cartoonist who have been allowed to “maintain the copyright” to their strip and still have to give 50% of all profits to the syndicate on everything the strip makes and have no control over how the strip is sold or promoted.
And Tom Spurgeon provides further insight here (emphasis mine):
Unless someone can figure out a way to unpack it for me and change my mind, Stevens keeping the copyright seems to me a non-story. My understanding is that this is an option offered to cartoonists as a matter of course; the key isn’t the copyright as much as the contractual agreements regarding control, direction and profit described above. Because syndicate contracts are so explicit on these issues, a cartoonist once described to me the issue of who gets the copyright as a coin-flip decision. The only thing I can guess is that depending on the contract means that Stevens would have an easier time putting the strip back on-line full-time were his agreement with UFS to dissolve.
Where these questions have come up around the web, I’ve seen other people kind of balk at even speculating about the deal: it’s rude. Maybe so. But it’s also urgently important to get as good an understanding as we can about these kinds of rights issues, as the asteroid of webcomics hurtles headlong into the corporate atmosphere. Everybody (including me) is very, very excited about this development still — rstevens is a great guy and a major talent, and DS is one of the best comic strips in existence — but coming to as full an understanding of it as possible could be a big benefit for everybody. Not that anybody “in on” the deal has any obligation to share any information. Probably quite the opposite.


September 6th, 2006 at 3:16 pm
I think it’s just his business deal and not ours to speculate on. I mean, instead of asking about it in public, why not just send him an e-mail and ask him? Or maybe there are parts of his deal he doesnt want public– I’m sure SOME things can be negotiated differently then every other cartoonists can get them.
The surprise for me was the being able to do your own merch with the syndicate not taking a cut. But, they never actually SAID that anywhere I read, maybe they are? Someone link me or quote me on it… actually, don’t. I really feel like just being HAPPY for the guy, I’m sure all of you are too, but this is the second time in less than a month when something about someone’s contracts and dealings have come up where you guys are picking it apart publically.
The best thing to do would be to do your best cartoons, then approach a syndicate with maybe a personal meeting of your own, face to face and propose something to them. That CAN happen.
September 6th, 2006 at 4:37 pm
Joey, I think people do get helped, but usually that help comes when they’re further along in the process. I know when I was working in strips, I was happy to answer certain questions from people who had a developmental contract that I wasn’t willing to share with people who imagined they one day might have one. You know?
The general rules apply, too, like 1) hire a good lawyer and 2) ask for everything you want. I don’t know of too many people who get super-screwed anymore. Comic books are a different matter.
September 6th, 2006 at 6:52 pm
Say, just wondering… has anyone actually asked the guy if he’s willing, or able, to divulge information? There’s been a lot of talking around him, but none actually with him.
September 6th, 2006 at 9:33 pm
Hey Tom — yes, I do understand.
I do want to clarify that I’m not questioning the deal: United Features is a well-established company with a strong track record and a history of proven success. It’s just that I had been a little overheated in my excitement about rstevens maintaining his copyright, and the realities you, and others, were pointing out about that (how it may or may not mean what I thought it did) made me feel that a follow-up post was in order.
Generally, though, having talked with rstevens in the past (way in the past, back when he was a part of Modern Tales briefly), I can tell you that he’s nothing if not a shrewd and canny businessperson, and I have every confidence that he’s negotiated a sweet deal for himself.
I wish I could say the same for some of the other cartoonists, and some of the other deals, I’ve been seeing pop up here and there!
September 8th, 2006 at 10:51 am
William G: Tom Spurgeon did just exactly that — he has an excellent interview with rstevens up on the Comics Reporter site now:
http://www.comicsreporter.com/index.php/resources/interviews/6123/
Joey
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