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‘Occasional Superheroine’ is Wrong About Webcomics

by Joey Manley

By all accounts, Valerie D’Orazio is a nice person, and I know from reading her blog that she’s a smart and articulate one, too. I have a lot of respect for what she does and, usually, for what she says. So this isn’t meant to start a fight.

But her recent post about webcomics, and how the business should (or will) evolve in the next five years, is just plain wrong.

I don’t say this to call her out necessarily, but to point to it as an example of the kind of thinking that I’ve been running into pretty consistently since becoming CEO of ComicSpace and meeting lots of people in the “comics industry” (quotes because the Marvel/DC axis is not the only comics industry — it’s one of several, and not even the biggest). This is understandable: Marvel and DC loom large in the imaginations of “comics industry” insiders because Marvel and DC are large. But it’s also kind of provincial. It’s like the residents of Hazzard wondering what Boss Hogg is going to do about these new Obama initiatives. I’m sure, in Hazzard, Boss Hogg (or whoever the local authority is in those parts these days) will figure out some way to profit from real-world trends. But all of us don’t live in Hazzard, and few of us want to.

I can’t say that the post is plain wrong and belittle it with 70’s TV references without at least explaining why I think it’s wrong. There are all kinds of reasons, but here’s one fundamental one: D’Orazio sees a day when the “top” webcomics are bought up by Marvel and DC, and the rest are discredited as amateurs. Her comments section filled up immediately with “top” webcomickers declaring that they’re doing just fine, thank you, and that it would be a very, very expensive proposition to buy them out. Which is true. Another truth: there are new “top” webcomics launching every day. It’s a slippery and ambitious field, with new xkcds popping up at an alarming (or delightful) rate and proceeding to take over the world. I picked xkcd as my example on purpose, by the way: what DC or Marvel editor would have picked that one up? No DC or Marvel editor would have, especially if he or she only had the first month or two of strips to go by. And the people who discovered xkcd and made it a hit? Most of them, I’ll wager, weren’t comic book readers, and would have been immune to any “anti-amateur” campaign waged by Marvel and DC’s PR machines. (I mean, come on: it’s stick figures for God’s sake).

The other “comics industries,” by the way, are: newspaper strips (King Features, United), manga (Viz, etc.), children’s and YA graphic novels (Scholastic, First Second, just about any multinational publisher you can name, etc.), and, yes, webcomics. There are probably some I have forgotten.

In the comments under her post, D’Orazio backs away just a little bit, saying that she isn’t hoping for Marvel and DC to absorb the top webcomics, but merely predicting that, in five years, it will happen (or maybe she’s predicting they will try — there’s a bit of ambiguity down there in comment-land, which happens, which happens, God knows).

I’ll make a prediction of my own. Marvel and DC are no more in a position to “take over” webcomics than they are to “take over” any of the other comics industries, but they will figure out some way to at least have a profitable presence in webcomics. And that’s fine. Webcomics is a big, big field — bigger than New York publishing insiders sometimes realize; bigger than the field they’re used to playing in — and has plenty of room for everybody. We welcome all players.

[Edit: my follow-up is here.]

7 Responses to “‘Occasional Superheroine’ is Wrong About Webcomics”

  1. Joey Manley Says:

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  3. Digital Strips: The Webcomics Podcast Says:

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  5. neokantolin Says:

    Congratulations, sir.

    You made a comment on her predictions, and she turned into a screeching harpy. Most of us mortals don’t learn Polymorph for quite some time. She should be proud, in fact, that she’ll be able to compare notes with you in five years at all. A post like the one she made stirs up the peasants, something “the corporation” doesn’t take too kindly to.

    In five years, she’ll be a married homemaker still wistfully telling people about how, once, she worked at Marvel Comics.

    I’m sure you’ll still sign the book she hands you, though. You seem like a reasonable sort of man.

  6. Ed Gauthier Says:

    That gal Val sure sounds like one hyper little piper. Of course her crazy dreams about her corporate buddies taking over the webcomics world couldn’t be further off base. The whole point of artists going to and making homes on the web in the first place was to ESCAPE from those boring, generic, lowest common denominator losers running their corporations into the ground.

    So we’re sure as hell not going to let them piss in our soup at this late date!

    I see them trying the same garbage with “celebs” hogging the recent webcomics awards – no thanks, Joss Whedon and company – trot on back to Hollywood and make some more lame Buffy shows – we don’t need “superstars” trying to elbow out all the good REAL people here!

    And be sure to let the door hit ya on the way out!

  7. Lorenzo Ross Says:

    I know I’m super late jumping on all this but I wholeheartedly agree that the internet is big enough for all of us. That’s the beauty of it! Those of us that have grown tired of the men in tights will always enjoy the web comics that feature non superhero fare. This is not to say that Marvel & DC will not try to seize control of all internet comics, after all that is the goal of any corporation. I believe the future of comics is the internet and there is enough pie for all of us to get a slice.

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